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Kevin Bussey (aka k-dawg)
Lead Pastor
Charlotte, NC, USA


Samford University: B.S. Public Administration, 1985
University of Alabama at Birmingham: M.A. Education, 1988

Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary: MDivBL, 1995


Married to:
Cassandra (6-25-88)

Children:
Jacob
Hope

quote of the week

"Pastor I don't like your plans" Bisagno, "what are your plans." man, "I don't have any." Bisagno, "I like my plans better than yours." .

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dorcas hawker
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angela davis
neil elmore
jason shepherd
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wayne cordeiro
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the ooze
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chris tomlin: live from austin music hall


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storyside:b : everything and more


delirious?: the mission bell


hillsong united: look to you



 

Wednesday, January 18, 2006

Freedom vs. witness

Steve McCoy has a great discussion going on his blog about SBC policies at seminaries. One of his concerns is at Southern Seminary the students are forced to sign an agreement not to drink alcohol while they attend seminary. He is concerned with "extra-biblical" rules that are placed on students such as obstaining from drinking alcohol. He says that some IMB missionaries are placed in difficult situations on the mission field in regards to alcohol. In some cultures it is accepted that wine, beer and other adult beverages are provided at every meal. But IMB missionaries are prohibited from drinking and often offend those who they are trying to minister to. This is a difficult subject for me. I don't drink. I never have been a drinker. My grandfather (father's side) was an alcoholic and died of liver cancer because of his drinking. I never had the desire to drink. My father told me if I wanted to try alcohol he would buy it for me and let me try it at home because he didn't want me driving on the road as a teenager. I grew up in Tuscaloosa, AL the home of party town USA. If I had wanted it, I could have easily had all I wanted. Then I was in a Fraternity in college. I guess I never wanted alcohol because it was never forbidden and I saw the dangers it posed to others. I entered the ministry and never have had a problem with wanting to drink alcohol. I enjoy OJ and coffee to much to worry about having a beer. When I was in student ministry I was asked if drinking alcohol was a sin. I can't support in the Bible anywhere that drinking alcohol is sin. Jesus turned water into wine. Paul suggested to Timothy to drink a little wine with his water for his stomach. So I can't in good conscience say that drinking alcohol is a sin. But I have never been a drinker. The only alcohol I have ever tasted was at an Episopal church in communion. I did not like it and vowed never to drink. I guess I became legalistic about alcohol because I associate drinking with getting drunk. I'm afraid if I were to drink I would become like Jim on Taxi because of my family history. A few years ago God began to break the box I had him in. I visited a man's house in Canton, GA who was a possible worship leader for our church. He was showing me his media room and I could not believe all of the alcohol in that room. It was like a bar. I was taken aback. Then at supper his 11 year old daughter brought in a neighbor that she had just led to Christ! WOW! Did I feel stupid. Is drinking alcohol a sin? No. But I don't get the facination with alcohol. In Jesus day the worst thing that could happen to a drunk driver was to fall off a camel! Now days, alcohol kills. Drunk driving is an epidemic. Not only that there are Christians who "flaunt their freedom in Christ" by saying they can drink because it is not a sin. Go check out the ooze and you will find Christians on that site with avatars of beer. They almost rub it in your face. If a believer wants to drink, then do it quietly. Don't flaunt your "freedom." Why do I refrain from drinking? First, my grandfather was an alcoholic and doctors say the disease can be inherrited. Second, it can be a bad testimony for me.
Romans 14:21 (NIV) It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
This verse is why I don't drink. I don't want to make someone stumble. Maybe this isn't an issue for you. But for me I would hate to keep someone from coming to Christ because I wanted to drink alcohol. I would hate to cause a younger Christ Follower to stumble because they saw me drinking. I feel the same about seeing certain movies. Would I eat a dinner with someone who does drink? Yes, I have and still will. I won't make them feel uncomfortable either. Jesus ate and drank with sinners. I will eat and drink iced tea or coffee with them and not say a word about their drink. I just want to be their friend and hope to share my relationship with Christ with them. If God doesn't give you the same conviction, fine. I can fellowship and worship with you. Those are my thoughts and they are not infallible.

posted by Kevin Bussey at 1/18/2006 08:49:00 AM

3 Comments:

Blogger Tammy Pate said...

Very interesting! You can imagine with Jason's entire family being Catholic, the situations I have been in concerning "to drink or not to drink".

I completely understand the concept you are explaining. I too have grandparents with alcoholism and I am afraid that it will pass down. I too have been confronted with, "where in the Bible does it say that?" by members of my married family. I too went to a private SBC college where it was not allowed. And I too can say that I can associate with people who are casually walking around with a glass of wine and also I can talk to someone who can barely stand up.

Not saying that I agree with what they are doing, but I cannot judge their actions. I can love them and care about them and I can also set an example for them. Do you think I would have lasted 12 years in this family had I gave snooty looks at the wine on the table at Thanksgiving or refused to attend family gatherings because I knew someone would possibly pass out at the end of the evening??

No, they ALL know I am a "BAPTIST", therefore they don't expect me to drink. But knowing that about me, I feel it is even MORE my responsibility to show Christian love and act responsibly at the same time (its not hard!). Another thing is that I show them that I respect their religious freedoms, and I want their respect too. I feel that I may be the only "Baptist" they know and I want so hard to break the stereotypic mold they have us in. And I think I do just that!


Tammy
www.caringbridge.com/al/colette

1/18/2006 11:22:00 AM  
Blogger Pressed said...

I come from a family where all of the males were addicted to alcohol. I too saw the negative effects of it. Seeing your family in a drunken stupor and watching your dad beat your mom because he is drunk was enough to cause me to not want anything to do with alcohol. Lets face it, alcohol is a dangerous drug. While many can drink it and not have a problem there are so many others out there who are addicted after their first round of it. While there is no scriptural evidence that drinking alcohol is a sin, I think it is a very wise thing for Baptists, churches, and Baptist schools to say maybe we shouldn't drink. It's not about control, its about responsibility. Lets face it. If we say it is ok then maybe 8 out of 10 people will be able to drink and have no problems at all, but the other 2 people who just heard it is ok to drink may become alcoholics, beat their wives, beat their kids, ruin their family and then drive head on into a car full of your children and destroy your family too because they were told it is really ok to drink.

We can never look past the fact that alcohol ruins lives and kills people and it would be better for us to stay away from alcohol all together (even if it isn't necessarily a sin) in order that we might influence the select few who would be destroyed by it.

On the other hand I think it is also a question of intentions. What is the purpose of drinking alcohol? Many people drink to get a buzz, to get drunk, to drown out their sorrows, because someone else is doing it, so as not to look bad in a crowd, and for many other reasons that I think find their root in sin. It's not just about getting drunk, but the purpose behind it. If your thirsty, you like the taste, and you don't drink it for any reason outside of quenching your thirst and desired taste then its probably not a sin (but it still destroys lives, even if it isn't your life being destroyed.)

1/19/2006 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger Kevin Bussey said...

Very well said Pressed. I agree! That's why I don't drink and don't want my staff to either. I'm worried about our witness. What if someone is just punchy but presented with an opportunity to sway from their morals (affair or even violence). Thanks for stopping by.

KB

1/19/2006 03:47:00 PM  

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