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Kevin Bussey (aka k-dawg)
Lead Pastor
Charlotte, NC, USA

Samford University: B.S. Public Administration, 1985
University of Alabama at Birmingham: M.A. Education, 1988

Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary: MDivBL, 1995

Married to:
Cassandra (6-25-88)


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Tuesday, June 06, 2006

The Problem with labels.....

I have had it up to my neck with labels. When will the church start acting in love to each other? In recent weeks I have seen accusations leveled at people that are un-founded. W hides behind a blog and won't identify who he is. He claims that Dr. Frank Page of Taylors First Baptist Church, Taylors, SC is a "liberal." He actually tried to imply that he condones homosexuality. I can't allow this to go on! Please! Plus Dr. Page is being criticized for standing behind one of his former church members Dr. Rusell Dilday! What good pastor wouldn't stand behind a church member when they are unfairly treated? Last year, Larry Bateman, the administrator at Taylors called me for an interview. Larry was my former boss in Atlanta. He wanted me to become their Adult Pastor. Cassandra and I flew to Greenville and met with the staff and enjoyed a night of worship at their church. I was very impressed with Dr. Page. He has transitioned every church where he has been pastor. He spent a few hours with us and all I can say is he is the real deal. We decided that God was leading us to pastor a church so I had to back out of further talks with Taylors FBC. I promise you Larry Bateman would not be serving at a "liberal" church. I said I would not talk politics on my blog and I won't. Name calling is a problem in Christian circles. If you don't like someone, you call them a name. In my denonomination if you want to ruin a person's reputation, you call them a "liberal" or an "emergent." This is wrong! I've read books by so-called "emergents" and have liked some of what they say and think a lot of it is garbage. I voted for George W. Bush but I don't like everything he has done either. We believers need to quit calling people names! If we don't agree with them, then love them anyway because when we get to Heaven we will spend eternity with them!

posted by Kevin Bussey at 6/06/2006 10:08:00 PM


Blogger John Stickley said...

Amen, Kevin. I'm sick of labels, name-calling, motive questioning, etc. Our debate tactics, as Baptists, leave MUCH to be desired. That goes for both sides of the issues.

My small group lesson tonight was actually on this point, to a large extent... we addressed judgmental attitudes and the questioning of each other's motives. Bottom line? God is the only one qualified to judge hearts.

Anyway, I'm hoping to post a summary of the lesson on my blog later tonight or tomorrow.

6/07/2006 12:20:00 AM  
Blogger CW said...

Good sermon and I agree. I think the vast majority of Southern Baptist do not fit an appropriate label. Yet, we are labeled all the same.

6/07/2006 01:09:00 AM  
Blogger Jamie Wootten said...

From Jack Graham's book, "A Man of God" (p57)

"It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. The best way to dispel darkness is not by shouting against it, but to drive it away by letting our light shine conspicuously and consistently."

For some reason we find it easier to attack others than to show the love of Christ. I may not always like or agree with other people but God is challenging me to make sure I take the time to understand them and show them love even in the midst of disagreement. I am a work in progress to say the least.

6/07/2006 10:29:00 AM  
Blogger Wade Burleson said...

Well said Kevin.

Email your post to Dr. Sutton.

He needs to read it.

6/07/2006 11:11:00 PM  
Blogger W said...


Double-talk must run with your group. It is funny that you said on my blog, "I have not attacked or will attack another fellow believer. We will spend eternity together, we better start getting along now." Then you attack.

I harbor no hard feelings toward you at all. We simply do not see eye-to-eye on several issues.

BTW, please quote me when I stated, "Frank Page is a Liberal." I did ASK if he was a "Closet Liberal" but please find where I definitivly said he was one.


6/08/2006 01:08:00 AM  
Blogger Alan Cross said...

I agree, Kevin. I feel like I need to take a shower, all of a sudden. This whole thing is why I have HATED convention politics. I cared about the IMB policies, the CP giving thing really bothered me, and not sticking with the BF&M is wrong. But, all this other stuff is pointless and a waste of time. Lots of people think that anyone to the left of them is liberal and anyone to the right is crazy. You can't reason with people like that. I'm going to Greensboro, and I hope to meet you all there, but I will not engage in all this stuff. It's pointless.

6/08/2006 01:35:00 AM  
Blogger John Stickley said...


What kind of reaction did you expect from Kevin and others from a blog post filled with outlandish accusations and inflammatory strawman arguments? I believe your post about Frank Page would be considered "flame bait" or "trolling" on most any moderated forum.

Should Kevin have exercised a bit more restraint in responding? Perhaps. Should you have toned the rhetoric in your post down a bit? Probably.

My point?

We ALL need to start thinking about how our posts and comments will be perceived a bit more before hitting that "publish" button. Much of the conversation in the blog world does nothing to glorify Christ.

(BTW, why hide your identity by posting as the anonymous "W"?)

6/08/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Blogger W said...


What I am doing is nothing new to the blogosphere. If it wasn't already being done toward Dr Floyd then you would not have to be putting up with me right now.

I encourage you to point to a strawman argument I made. You claim it, I would like to see it.

BTW, I have graduated from anonymous W, to the infamous W. It is funny how people will attack me instead of the issues I raise. The issue is not me, I want to keep it that way. The issue is, who should lead the SBC.


6/08/2006 09:59:00 AM  
Blogger Kevin Bussey said...


Where did I attack you? All I said is you called Dr. Page a liberal...that is what you said. I also said you won't reveal who you are... Where have I attacked you? I haven't. You have drug a good man's name thru the mud. I have never said anything bad about you, Dr. Floyd or Dr. Sutton. Don't start a smoke screen by claiming I'm attacking anyone. I'm not! I am defending a man's honor!

6/08/2006 10:59:00 AM  
Blogger Kevin Bussey said...


All I know about you is your are coming from Richard, TX. I assume you are a student @ SWBTS. I pray you have a wonderful ministry. I pray God uses you to disciple many people to Christ. Please reconsider your post on Dr. Page.

6/08/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Blogger John Stickley said...


You say that what you are doing is nothing new to the blogosphere. I say "so what?". "Everyone else is doing it" is not a very good excuse for inappropriate behavior.

I return to my original point. We ALL need to think a bit more about how our posts will be perceived before we fly off the handle and hit "publish" on something that really doesn't honor our God. That point was not an attack on you, “W”, but an admonishment to EVERYONE to think a bit more about what we’re writing, its impact on others, and (especially) its impact on the Kingdom. (For the record, I’m probably as guilty as anyone in this.)

In regard to your anonymity; I asked a question. That was NOT an attack. If you took it that way, I apologize. I simply wanted to know why you felt the need to post your thoughts about these issues anonymously. What do you stand to lose by taking credit for your posts by posting under your real name?

(So I can't be accused of ignoring your question, I saw your argument in regard to Frank Page's position "logically" leading to the acceptance of homosexuality as a strawman argument against the “non-essentials” issue. You may disagree with that characterization, and that's fine. Regardless, I see that particular argument filled more with rhetoric than real substance; the response you've seen on your blog and others would seem to support that view.)

6/08/2006 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger W said...


Call accusing someone of something, what you will. Was it an attack, to some people it would be. Personally, I don't really care what you say about me, this is not the issue. The reality is, I do pray God's best for you and your future. The difference is, we don't see eye to eye on this issue.

I am still waiting for you to lay out where I called Page a liberal. You and Wade (in reference to his blog on Sutton) are quick to judge, claiming that people are calling Page a liberal. I ask again, show me where?

You call me out for "dragging a man's name through the mud." Where were you on Ben Cole's blog calling him out for doing the same thing to Patterson, Floyd, Graham (these are to name the most recent who have been mentioned by Cole)? Or on Burleson's blog when he falsly accused Sutton of calling Page a liberal...where were you? Agreeing with your side.


6/08/2006 11:58:00 AM  
Blogger Kevin Bussey said...


Ask Jeremy Roberts about how I defended Floyd. I don't like his CP giving but I think God has done a lot thru him. I like hearing Dr. Floyd and Dr. Graham. I don't know Sutton but I'm sure he is a fine man.

You did say on your blog Page might be a closet liberal. What am I suppose to think? I don't have a side. I'm sick of Christians attacking one another. I have not attacked you. I pray God blesses your ministry and your studies.

6/08/2006 10:19:00 PM  
Blogger Arkansas Razorbaptist said...

We tell ourselves everyday it's okay to be anonymous; just don't be stupid, perhaps unreasonable sometimes, but not stupid.

Much love to all my brethren and sisteren -- is that spelled correctly?


6/08/2006 11:10:00 PM  
Blogger Bryan Riley said...

W, when you say things like conservative or closet liberal and continue with your blog, you clearly suggest certain conclusions. Not only do we all define broad tag words and stereotypes like conservative or liberal very differently, but we also sound like secular politicians when we throw them around. One could even go so far as to say that throwing around such terms, whether your own meaning is innocent enough or not (in other words, even if you don't mean that Page is someone who doesn't believe Jesus is the Son of God, the propitiation for our sins, raised from the dead), but you had the the knowledge that the hearers will likely interpret your words a certain way (that Page is teaching something less than the Truth), it is tantamount to lying, gossiping, slandering, etc., because you know your words will lead some to a conclusion that is different than what is factual. It truly is sad. What would be relevant is to say, factually, what an individual's self-reported stance is on a given issue (without a conclusory but misleading label) or to state the facts of CP giving, etc.

Regardless, it seems sad that we mirror our society in the selection of leadership within a Christian organization. Don't hide behind some self-righteous position. What does Jesus ask of us? To be in unity. To love. To live for Him. Let's do nothing less.

6/09/2006 12:16:00 AM  

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